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Gary S's avatar

First of all, apologies for my confusion. After 5 years I’m feeling a little weary and battle brain fracked from being an absolute Normie. So the Deep State and the Technocrats all want the same thing and have achieved this through using the same methods? Their funding is often approved by captured governments and businesses which we pay for? Their two apparent camps are just to provide theatre, divide society, take control, make money and depopulate? The long and the short of it is they are all the same entity with a little in fighting. No?

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Doc Malik's avatar

Yup

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Warrior Mom's avatar

Mr Wood is definitely an 'A-lister'. looking forward to this one. I first became aware of his work thru Meryl Nass. wealth of knowledge; he could probably do a 6 hour podcast and still not cover it all.

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sue's avatar

OMG :O:O I am 5m in but had to stop to say, you are interviewing research royalty!!! Well done, Ahmad!!!!!

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sue's avatar

Two hours in (will save the remaining for a.m.). Fascinating listening to Patrick's finely honed take on the 'neo-fascists'' maneuvers. That he was onto them, along with Sutton, so long ago, and that he has - like Sutton - not let go, speaks volumes for his integrity. And your commentary, Ahmad, shows that you are up to speed (& some) with this fine man. Much love to you both. xx Ps. I hope the roofers do a good job : )

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Ann Bennett's avatar

It took me 4 attempts to get to the end of this podcast, but that's because I had to listen so carefully. So much information, wow, mind blowing!! Thanks to both of you, things are much clearer in my mind now 🙏

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Joan's avatar

Fantastic podcast! A must-listen for all of us, especially the many who are falling for the Trump-and-Musk-are-saviours psy-op.

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Patrick Wood's avatar

Thanks, Joan!

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Joan's avatar

Thank you Patrick, for your excellent and tireless work and thoughtful analysis. It is very much appreciated!

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Pascal Bloemen's avatar

Master piece podcast

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Frances Leader's avatar

Just finished listening Doc. That was a brilliant interview. You hit his wall 5 times mate! I was almost dancing with joy. Yes, technobrats are vulturing around our politicians and the internet of bodies and things is imminent but WHO is really pulling the strings was a bridge too far for Patrick, as it is for many in the alt-media. He is good at avoiding that question. Lots of practice.

⭐I made some notes for you (didn't you just know that I would?)!!

I have made enquiries about the Chinese "social credit score" and there is no sign of it in China. In fact, when TikTok went down for a few days Chinese people communicated with English speaking people and LAUGHED at the idea! Friends who live in China (for decades) also say that most of the fear porn we are fed about China is completely untrue. Interesting, huh?

The Chinese medical system is something I do know about. They use home remedies from traditional Chinese herbal medicine and acupuncture as their first resort. If they need to consult a doctor they go to the local hospitals - there are no GPs in China. An entirely AI hospital is impossible! You know this.... can AI operate on a crushed ankle? Of course not.

I looked up Bechtel and they only admit to TWO infrastructure projects in China, not 18 as Patrick Wood stated. I thought it was odd because the Chinese are very proud of their modernisation which has pulled 100s of millions of people out of abject poverty.

You know what struck me about this conversation? Patrick was outclassed. He did not grow up in Glasgow - so how could he have known that you were primed with the ins and outs of a duck's arse since birth?

Listening to you delivering the cumulation of acquired knowledge from your life, your friends, your guests and your subscribers was pure joy for me. When you speak with such conviction and frame your questions so artfully - man, you sound just like my husband and all his tough git mates. Aye, they were scallies from Drumchapel and there were no flies on them either. 😉

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Julie ward's avatar

Great interview Ahmad and Patrick. Good information to know.

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Tim's avatar

Wow! Top guest Ahmad! Really looking forward to this one! Such an interesting man. Thank you.

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Darren Overton's avatar

If you have him on again, could you ask him if they would throw the banking system under the bus?

It seems to me that they have to throw both the bankers and the politicians under the bus.

This they will use as the big win to get people onboard?

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Gary S's avatar

Really interesting podcast, thank you. One point about the fortification of bread has concerned me over the past 6 months. The fortification must be supplied by government? My partner became, what we deduced to be a gluten intolerance, several years ago. So gluten free products were purchased thereafter, which helped. However, a few months ago we started baking our own bread and used a French bread flour which was not fortified or bleached, as a trial. My partner can consume this without the undesired effects of fortified bread. Odd, but does suggest her intolerance is the fortification?

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Frances Leader's avatar

I was diagnosed coeliac and took up a gluten free diet. After 10 years of that I went to live in Spain where the wheat crops are not treated with glyphosate. I was able to eat wheat products without reactions. When I came back to UK - all the symptoms returned with a vengeance. Our farmers use glyphosate on their crops and to make matters worse they also spray them just before harvest to aid in desiccation. Lovely. The annoying thing is, they don't have to include glyphosate on the ingredients lists so we cannot know what products are safe from that toxic trash!

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Gary S's avatar

Hi Frances. Hope you had a good birthday! Yes, I believe the wheat/flour from France is not treated with glyphosate, so it may be another reason why it’s better. My suspicious mind, unfortunately, questions why they need to fortify (when other countries don’t) and the government are the probable suppliers of the fortification to millers. I also see that non wholemeal wheat flour, as of 2026, is required to add 250ug of folic acid per 100g of flour. Apparently to decrease the increasing birth defects. I know they don’t do anything that’s for our good health.

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Joan's avatar

All flour in Canada is supplemented with folic acid, and it's definitely not good.

Folic acid supplements impair uptake of 5-methyltetrahydrofolate (5MTHF), the natural bioactive form of folate our bodies require for the synthesis of neurotransmitters and DNA.

• Folic acid supplements impair natural killer cells, which are an important part of our natural defence against cancer and viruses.

• Fetal exposure to elevated folic acid and B12 increases the risk for autism and food allergies.

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Gary S's avatar

Thought it wouldn’t be. Thanks for the information 👍🏼

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sue's avatar

I recently watched ''Elysium'', with Matt Damon. It has remained in my mind as the perfect metaphor describing where we're being 'nudged'. Thank you Patrick and Ahmad for a brilliant discussion that reveals the technocratic agenda and how to counter it. Never give in - great advice! xx

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Moorejosie@yahoo.co.uk's avatar

Thank you for another awesome podcast. I have to say this was a tough listen...such incredible research and so brilliantly explained, and while I know it to be true it scares the pants off me. I loved, though, how you brought your characteristic optimism into the conversation at the end suggesting that every empire had a lifespan and perhaps this one does too. In the words of the great Leonard Cohen, "Everything has a crack in it, that's how the light gets in."

Let's hope that the light makes is way into this ruling elite and the future for our kids turns out to be a brighter one. Big love

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Frankie1859's avatar

Well, that was a marathon of required listening!

But how are people going to "not put up with it" if the self-assembled nano technology in the heads is telling them otherwise?

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Frances Leader's avatar

We haven't got nano bots in the brain Frankie! That is another fear porn pile of piffle. Why would they need to waste high tech resources when a quick tweak on the electro-magnetic radiation frequencies can sicken all living things to death in an instant?

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Frankie1859's avatar

So they are keeping some of us alive and well for breeding purposes?? 🙃

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Frances Leader's avatar

The radiation puts paid to reproduction too. It boosts Viagra sales though.

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Tone's avatar

Hi Frankie and Frances. Im not sure the nano bots mentioned by Patrick are all fear porn and piffle, as I myself have observed bluetooth mac addresses emanating from the jabbed. Why, how and for what purpose I can only speculate, but I have seen this repeatably since the jab rollout. I don't have a good alternative explanation for these unlabeled (unregistered) mac addresses as they only appear when I get visited by the jabbed. My living arrangements, that being with no close neighbors (1km away) and living in a heavily wooded rural setting allows me to discount that these are being caused by unknown electronic devices. I know how crazy this sounds, it sounded just as crazy to me when I first heard about it but I cannot ignore what I've seen myself. If you have a better explanation, Id gratefully appreciate your input. Kind regards to you both and to everyone else here brave enough to question what we are all living through.

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Frances Leader's avatar

I have seen reports which speak of bluetooth mac addresses emanating from the jabbed, even after death. It certainly is a puzzle.

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Tone's avatar

Indeed a puzzle worth the solving.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

That was EPIC. I just got through binging on all three of Patrick's REQUIRED books on technocracy and happened to notice you did a podcast with him hours after finishing the third book. I love Patrick's Apocaloptimistic (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/against-defeatism-the-apocaloptimist) combination of Confronting the Brutal Facts + the Stockdale Paradox (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-my-karass) as well as his focus on concrete solutions in his books. I also greatly appreciate his aerial perspective and his right-hemispheric, synthesized understanding of the big picture while realizing many of the topic-dictators are distracting, dividing, and dissipating us with single-issue obsessions.

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