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RhonaJ's avatar

This so reflected my own experience in academia before I was managed out and abandoned in a foreign country with a gagging order place. The corruption, bullying, harassment, nepotism etc has been going on for years. I moved to different universities and finally a different continent hoping to find a good place but didn’t succeed.

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Ursula Edgington, PhD's avatar

It's ubiquitous. I hope you have found a more rewarding career or vocation?

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Darren Overton's avatar

Your conversation explains to me why I don’t trust experts. It also matches my eldest daughter’s experience in the corporate world.

The only solution is a parallel system because this one is collapsing

I do love the fact that Covid has increased the intelligence of the tinfoil hat community:)

Cheers guys:)

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Ursula Edgington, PhD's avatar

Thanks, Darren. That’s great I’ve been able to fill in some of the gaps. Do read my piece in @PropagandainFocus as it has the links to Prof Norman Fenton’s post and other useful bits of evidence that can be shared.

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Sami's avatar

Ursula mentioned a close friend of mine in this episode. I'm blessed to have met Kathryn and to have traveled to Wellington with her in 2022. That's my silver lining. All the same-minded people I met during 'that time' are an incredible source of support for me now. Mine, like others is a long tale of WTF moments listening to 'our single source of truth', times of logic-baffling conversations with my Principal, being offered free counseling from my Board (yeah, the ones inflicting the trauma on me) and being 'othered' by people I'd work with for 8 years. It sucked. It made me cry. It made me defend myself to the very end. It made me the 'conspiracy theorist' I am today. And I am blessed. Doc, I am blessed to have found you xxxx

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Mageerose's avatar

🙏

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Mageerose's avatar

A few years ago my friend who lectured in Physics had a young son who attended Imperial London who was a Physics student . My friend was an exceptionally clever lady and her son followed in her footsteps. The family were delighted when he was offered his place at the University of his choice . He was a good student and conscientious until the day he challenged some of the experiments his professor was lecturing in. He annoyed the Lecturer so much that the department called him in for a meeting and asked him if the course was for him. Questions like are sure you want to pursue this course , are you happy here and the like . My friend was devastated and she couldn’t believe what they did to him . He did finish his degree but no longer is in that field .

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Ursula Edgington, PhD's avatar

In my experience this is more common than many realise.

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Mageerose's avatar

It is !

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Debra's avatar

The book Ursula recommended is excellent, “ The truth about Drug companies “ by Marcia Angell. Other great ones on the same vane are: “ On the take” by Jerome P Kassirer and “ Deadly medicine and organised Crime “ by Peter Gotzsche. All brilliant 🤩

Great interview 👍

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Ursula Edgington, PhD's avatar

Yes highly recommend people seek all these out. Make sure your local library stocks them too! There are many more. We need ‘freedom libraries’ without this censorship.

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Frankie1859's avatar

Thank you for this - lovely conversation, lovely lady!

If Doc's book will not be able to include analyses of the alternative treatments that have been very 'cancelled' over the years, one hopes that one might be published anonymously...

Maybe give Prof. Norman Fenton another go ... just stick to the subject of statistics :-)

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sue's avatar

Surely they're not cooking the books by compromising honest researchers - LOL!!!! Seriously though, thank you for a piercing conversation and for your work flagging the way. xx

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