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Philip Caygill's avatar

Wow! I’m soon to go out for a walk in nature with my cheeky, terrier dog, to realign and ground myself after that amazing interview!

I normally listen to your interviews as I’m driving, working and going about my day, as I can grasp, quite easily, what is being said and discussed, with other guests. With this one, I had to ‘strap myself in’ and ‘arrange the blast shields’ so I could listen up good. You’re right, this interview should be listened to at .75 speed. However, I listened at normal speed, to fully understand the passion and depth of who he is and what he is saying.

A couple of months into the plandemic of 2020, when I realised the extent of what was being done to humanity, I realised I was at a crossroads and what I was about to do, would determine my direction henceforth. I sat down and wrote to the people I cared about most and explained what I had researched and knew to be happening. I later provided references to my research, so they could check for themselves. Not one of my closest people, then in my life, even acknowledged my heartfelt letter/email. To say my mind was blown, is quite an understatement and has determined the direction of my life ever since. No none could believe the enormity of what I had just laid out in front of them. Me personally, if someone close to me, my life partner, son or friend, had written such an explosive letter to me, I would have responded. That is me.

This interview, with the help of Doc, to slow things down and have some of the really important stuff clearly explained, is, to me personally, another one of those crossroads. This time I’m going to share it widely, but will add my own personal message, asking those who receive it, to please take the 2.5 hours by investing this time, without distractions, to absorb the enormity of what has been discussed, as the awareness of what is being done to us, in such subtle ways, is so important, in order for us to stop it.

Thanks Doc, for the skill in which you were able to guide this interview, slowing things down at key points, was crucial to grasp and ‘let it register’. In your journey, you have spoken from your heart and soul and become one of the finest podcasters, if not the finest. Period.

Thank you to ‘escapekey’ for going to the interview in person, for your wealth of knowledge and for your efforts to educate humanity. Much appreciated!

esc's avatar

if you can help make it easier to understand, please do. i'm under no illusion that i'm not much of a presenter.

Philip Caygill's avatar

No, your presentation was excellent and thank you so much for what you do! The content of this interview is like putting all of the good content, currently available on Substack, into your single interview. Amazing, heavy stuff, but we all need to know about it - I was having a little fun/serious comment about going for a walk in nature, just to highlight the enormity of what is unfolding under our noses. Thanks again.

Pascal Bloemen's avatar

Encyclopedic machine gun strengthening the connected dots super podcast.

Indeed more time is needed!

Not only it is packed with so much that needs sinking in and repeating in other ways to compensate for, yes the high speed.

Also more time on for example NATO in connection with the COVID dossier from Sasha and Debbie.

Many times Amad, when you reformulated something or summarized in your words, these words associated with new information and thoughts in the guy’s memory.

Brilliant podcast (content wise).

esc's avatar

ive written on NATO a fair bit (below), but what's also important is the Marshall Plan which was essentially spawn point of much of what's going on...

https://escapekey.substack.com/p/conditional-security?utm_source=publication-search

Pascal Bloemen's avatar

Thank you. I did not know that. I just became aware of your Substack just now after listening the podcast. Nevertheless it would be good to have more podcasts. Reading is good but reading and listening is even better. At least for me.

esc's avatar

the marshall plan really was hyper-corrupt

well, i went on courtenay turner some 5-6 weeks ago, and back then, they said turnaround time would be around 2 weeks, so... er... anytime soon...

https://escapekey.substack.com/p/architecture-of-european-unity?utm_source=publication-search

Pascal Bloemen's avatar

I’m curious. How many years did it cost you to get all this researched? And what is your background training ?

esc's avatar

well, as said, who i am or what i do does not matter in the slightest. but let me say that logic and systems theory is right at the heart of my qualifications.

and it took probably around 30 months to get to this stage.

Pascal Bloemen's avatar

Yes agree qualifications do not matter.

In the end the only thing that matters is the developed capabilities and finally the truth.

30 months that is pretty damn fast even if you have been able to do 12 hours a day.

Some podcasters are working on this kind of societal conspiracy stuff for 18 years.

Others I hear saying they needed 20+ years to reprogram themselves.

Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

WOW! Thank you both for this nutrient-dense primer on global governance and social engineering!

I wish this came with a bibliography :-) I tried to search for the documents esc referenced as they came up but know I missed some.

Three most important takeaways off the top of my head:

1) ethical imperatives (i.e., weaponizing compassion)

2) governance by indicators (COVID being the first instance of this)

3) Aesopian language

esc's avatar

Lmk what you can’t find and ill reply with related documents or where to find them

This might be one of the more outrageous

https://escapekey.substack.com/p/combating-global-warming?utm_source=publication-search

Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Fantastic and thank you so much, esc! That article looks like a wonderful compilation.

One of the documents you referenced was the 1949 United Nations report on world citizenship, I believe? I was having trouble finding that one at archive.org.

esc's avatar

To be completely honest - I dont recall where I found it. I screenshot it, placed these in a folder, and when I returned I realised I never recorded the URL. The entire document is over here however

I did manage to drum up some of the other documents from that series but just not that particular one

https://escapekey.substack.com/p/the-united-nations-and-world-citizenship?utm_source=publication-search

Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Thank you, esc! That sent me on a research expedition that led me to discover this book on the United Nations Secretariat, which may or may not have anything of interest as their diabolical plans are embedded in boring bureaucratese, as you well know :-)

https://annas-archive.org/md5/e4140a8a88c8bafc958f236b845dde6c

Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Hi, Margaret! I'm glad that you defined the ethical imperatives as weaponizing compassion. I was just about to subtitle a stack 'Our love is being used against us. Don't blame the love.'

What I see in the anti-woke movement is blaming the compassionate, not those who've weaponized it. And I think that's part of their plan (and I'm with Ahmad that I think there is a 'they that starts with J' who are not just an accidental band of opportunists--and it also answers Ahmad's question about 'why would they do this?' Without the occult element, it doesn't make sense.)

In the same way, the love of nature has been weaponized. When esc talks about forcing the President of Brazil to stop 'those people' cutting down the Amazon, it is OF COURSE the President of Brazil who's authorized and profiting from it in the first place. Not interfering in Brazil's elections would enable Amazonians to stop it.

And I was also struck by the Aesopian language, which was a new term for me. From the definition, however, Aesop's fables--like Gulliver's Travels or The Wizard of Oz--were a way of getting the truth out in a coded form. When words are used to trick us into lies, I call them hex words from dynastic Egypt, where if you can trick someone into saying a lie, a demon snags their tongue. That's what I think is happening.

Pauline Coleman's avatar

The presenting is not important it's the message you done better than you think it's scary times for humanity it's always better to know your enemy with gratitude for all your hard work Humanity SOS 🙏

Giles's avatar

Really struggling with this one and his mannerisms and speech. I want to listen and extract the information but think text is better for him.

Doc Malik's avatar

I struggled too! Not every brilliant writer is a great communicator, I hope I was able to get the better out of him. What he has to say is extremely important.

esc's avatar

I went through the six rails and made them more easily understood - or so I hope - over here

https://escapekey.substack.com/p/mark-of-the-beast

Doc Malik's avatar

Doh I forgot to link that in my substack! I'll go back and do that!!!!

esc's avatar

It’s essentially a clean explanation of the six rails which I admit could have been delivered better- but do keep in mind that this isn’t written down in any public document (that would be akin to admission of ‘light’ treason, in effect). I have to reverse engineer it through logical deduction to fit with the environment. It’s hard enough working out the pieces of the puzzle but putting them together so they all fit is a challenge in itself. But it’s all logical, fits together, and explains how a single ‘expert’ class rules via conditional governance through conditional finance - incidentally, the central banks to whom I return in the next essay because it can only be them.

Pascal Bloemen's avatar

There is so much in your story and you are so much above it that concepts that are self-evident and dead easy for you that you perhaps do not realize that understanding the concepts themselves requires time and work.

For example the concept “clearing house”.

Up till one year ago I did not know about it.

It is a simple concept but only after one has read about it and thought about it in the example of the banking system.

Building upon it and generalizing to other subjects becomes difficult if one does not know the workings of a banking clearing house principle I expect.

Another example implicit in the story is the down right impossibility of using a mathematics based model to describe and (quantitatively) predict a complex systems. Let alone use it steer the system to a desired outcome.

The two most important example are the economy and the climate.

As regards to economy this impossibility ties in into the fallacious theory of Keynes.

It also ties in with the impossibility of a centrally organized economy and society.

It is why communist and Marxist systems failed and will always fail.

If one did not do the work to grasp all this then it is less easy to appreciate.

If one did do the work then it is immediately evident for example that models such as the capacity-resistor electrical models should be discarded.

esc's avatar

i fundamentally agree, but these crooks fundamentally believe it's a matter of granularity of surveillance information before their idiotic Spinozan dreams become reality.

wrt clearinghouses

https://escapekey.substack.com/p/own-nothing-control-everything?utm_source=publication-search

Sharon Purcell's avatar

Wow, my head is spinning after listening to this😵‍💫. What an encyclopaedic knowledge ESC has. Really depressing how far they’ve managed to go but encouraging that so many are seeing the control for what it is and that key targets are continually missed 🙏. They’re also deluded psychopaths and seem to have disregarded human ingenuity to devise ways around obstacles and that’s not without considering the hard core criminals who will also no doubt find a way to operate outside of their strictures and rules

Thomas Bain's avatar

Why is it that I am reminded of the Charlton Heston movie “ Soylent Green” …. I guess I shouldn’t be too surprised to learn that “ they” have other plans for us such as an ingredient in everyone’s favourite burger, yikes !

Frances Leader's avatar

"Sort of...." "kind of...." repeatedly interspersed completely throws me off kilter. I cannot listen to this man.

I also find it rather telling that his writing does not suffer from such truncated prose.

I have read a few of his posts and I don't trust him. Sorry.

esc's avatar

what a shock that someone who can't provide a primary source for anything of significance "doesn't trust" someone who can.

incidentally, the trust issue is mutual, but you're too irrelevant for me to waste further time on.

Frances Leader's avatar

^^ and therein lies all the evidence I need to show how utterly untrustworthy you are.

The “primary sources” you use are clearly taken from an Americanised teaching tool, probably from the Rockefeller Institute or any other Jesuit influenced academic centre of indoctrination.

You did not write a single word.

You are a conduit for a totalitarian justification nudge unit. Taken as a whole, your entire schtick is to illustrate the masters’ intent and convey a sense of complete superiority. Undermining resistance is only one of your reasons for being on Substack.

I have never seen such a massive terrorising effort being made by the totalitarians before, so I can only delight in the obvious fact that we are winning if your masters would employ you, a barely literate speaker, to attempt such psychological sabotage on Substack.

I have seen through you. Suck it up.

esc's avatar

which institution did you write this from? are they aware you're on the internet?

Frances Leader's avatar

🤣😂🙄 Oh my goodness, you are very funny! 🤣😂🙄

You reveal so much about yourself without realising it.

Such a 🤡

esc's avatar

that must be why i obsessively chase you around continuously, while doing everything i can to ensure that people buy into my 'black nobility' bullshit which i cannot source through primary sources to save my life

oh wait, that's not a description of me, but you

also - you never picked up on the concept of 'global ethics' or 'universal moral grammar', and what it's used for. i wonder why that is.

Frances Leader's avatar

^^^ more useful evidence that you are illiterate. Not just when speaking but when writing too.

Capital letters and punctuation elude you in comments, yet your entire backlog of newsletters is absolutely perfect.

One might conclude that the CIA wrote it and all you had to do was copy/paste. Do they pay well, btw?

Keep going, sunshine. Every comment shows Doc Malik's readers how on target I am.

Sharon Smith's avatar

Wow this blew my mind so much information I couldn’t keep up but amazing podcast as always doc Malik glad we’ve got you on our side

I’m a paid subscriber and love your podcasts hoping it helps waking people up thank you 🙏

Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Ahmad, your message du jour from your deathbed was heartfelt and poetic.

I'll put my solution in here, since I don't disagree with anything esc has said about the problem. What they're looking to create is One World Control. The antithesis is Small Scale Sovereignty. You can and must use the tools of the master to dismantle the master's house. One of those tools is Donella Meadows' Thinking in Systems: a Primer.' Other tools are money itself, banking, mortgages, interest, taxation. It's the purpose that matters.

One thing I questioned when I read it, long ago, is that she said nature loves hierarchy. It felt wrong then and more so now. There may be only one queen bee, but she's the hardest working member of the hive, and the most selfless.

What they want to impose is a global hierarchy. But it takes a network to undermine an empire.

Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Grateful for many things, Ahmad.

1) This speaker! I've been hearing about esc but hadn't yet read him.

2) Subtitles! Helped immensely.

3) That you went back to money creation! I quote Keynes in my book but you filled in what caused him to shift: being stuffed with money.

I'm a little more than halfway and was shocked to find Virginia Woolf's husband was in the Fabian Society. I've been defining Woke Feminism, which defends a man's right to look like a woman and a woman's right to work like a man. This is, of course, the opposite of what existed pre-patriarchy.

I also used Donella Meadow's work in my chapter on system change: What If Money Was No Object? Of course, she's also the co-author of Limits to Growth with her husband Dennis. They're hard to esc, these globalists.

In Ch 10 The Petropocalypse, I write about the financialization of nature that esc talks about: https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/10-the-petropocalypse:

'One of the new places to invest is in the “ecosystem services market.” Ecosystem services is a fancy name for all the things that nature does for free—water filtration through root systems, dung burial by beetles, or carbon storage by forests, to name a few. In the late 1990s scientists methodically went through every natural process they could categorize and placed a value on it. Altogether they came up with $33 trillion as the wages due to mother nature, or twice the world’s GDP at the time. Then the EU got to work convincing society that it should pay for what it used to get for free.

'This is closely aligned with the UN program REDD: Reduced Emissions from Deforestation and Degradation. A clever logo of an organization critical of REDD merges a forest with a barcode, symbolizing the commodification of nature.'

Looking forward to the rest!